Many times our rational intuitions are simply wrong.An example of this is the "evidence" that there were two Jeramiah's because it talks about events that happened after Jermiah had died. I don't take numbers literally, because they all have literary meanings behind them. You must drink one of them. "My question is directed to those who have encountered modern biblical scholarship and archeology and have still managed to retain a belief in the divinity of the Torah. The main argument forrationalism is based on the assumpti view the full answer. But some people are willing, and themselves consider it appropriate, to make an akeidah of the intellect for the fundamentals of faith.Besides, you make it sound as though if a person is convinced that yetziyas Mitzrayim and Matan Torah did not happen as described in the Torah, then there's no reason to be an Orthodox Jew. If Yes, then it fits within Rationalism, if No, then it is outside of it.To me, there are real and true limits on rationalism. Unser Testerteam hat eine riesige Auswahl an Produzenten ausführlich verglichen und wir präsentieren Ihnen hier unsere Resultate. Bounded rationality is the idea that rationality is limited, when individuals make decisions, by the tractability of the decision problem, the cognitive limitations of the mind, and the time available to make the decision. Seeking a Humane Political Order: The Limits of Rationalism. I neither think this is a character trait unique to the rational age nor an approach that could be too controversial. It Uses FMRI To Directly Measure Brain Processes C. I understand your reinterpretation. If both approaches at a latter times lead to(arguably) a negative overall results in terms of Torah, then one must use a different approach in different times). Research limitations in a typical dissertation may relate to the following points: 1. i dont understand how you answered the question exactly?if we apply the natural rational approach to judaism and then find inconsistency and falshood then notwithstanding what your dad or school taught you the honest intellectual will( and should) leave that perspective...which some want to say is precisely the reason for mass revelation (i know some on this blog dont believe that so obviously disregard this part) which is unique to judaism as opposed to all other religions... [continued from previous comment]Motivational reasons for beliefPersonally, I think this is the most powerful reason for belief. Or in the words of Chabad, Every Jew is a soldier of Hashem.There are some great dvrei torah you can read about how each person was the foundation of the mishkan. [continued from previous comment]But now let's take Pascal's Wager even further. Allow me to illustrate. 4 Rationalism Disadvantages. Rationalism cannot prevent one from making mistakes in life. Modern Psychology Is A Science Because A. There seems to me to exist a sort of rationalism which, by not recognizing [the] limits of the powers of individual reason, in fact tends to make human reason a less effective instrument than it could be…[T]he best name for this kind of naïve rationalism is rationalist constructivism. This clues the audience into nuance that is not overtly stated in the text, and not meant to be stated overtly. … "Mohammed replied "Trust in God, but first tie up your camel. ]Infinities are a little hard to deal with, so I like to think of it like this: Imagine that you have two cups in front of you. Rationality doesn’t generally work well within meta-logics other than Rationality, and Rationality is Rationally Rational. I just now remembered a good English-language source for some examples of the "New TANACH studies". Also, you say that there is a difference between saying that matan torah didn't happen as described and matan torah didn't happen periodSorry, I was referring to yetziyas mitzrayim. "?You started talking about "material evidence" and then you say "argumentation". So, although perhaps debatable, these may indeed be strong arguments in favor of belief.The most powerful criteria for belief in religion, in my mind, is the motivational criteria. He is the more logical for losing certain sane affections. Akkadian is a Semitic language, with similar phonemes and a lot of cognate vocabulary with Hebrew, so Assyriology would seem to be a natural field for Jews to enter. Logic is one source of wisdom. So the only way to convince someone to believe something is to use arguments based on psychology. Moreover, the census was taken by counting half-shekels given by each member. The model assumes that we have or should or can obtain adequate information, both in terms of quality, quantity and accuracy. Re: Rationalism and it's limitations. There are two things that I have noted. Anthropology, Phenomenology and the Limitations of Scientific Rationalism in the Study of the Supernatural by Theodore S. Petrus Abstract Scientific rationalism has long been considered one of the pillars of true science. It does not depend on sensory input (empiricism)to find truth. Exploring the legacy of the rationalist Rishonim (medieval Torah scholars), and various other notes, by Rabbi Dr. Natan Slifkin, director of The Biblical Museum of Natural History in Beit Shemesh. Those are also out, since they're certainly less plausible than other religions. Realism has been long claimed by its followers to be the ablest theory of international relations to comprehend the world’s reality. (today, it might include other galaxies, in the future it might include other universes)"With a little work I'm sure you can find thousands of bits which say "No matter how you slice it it's baloney". In Western philosophy, empiricism boasts a long and distinguished list of followers; it became particularly popular during the 1600's and 1700's. "For me, the problem is not the limit of rationalism, it is the limit of using the "opinions of experts" as your basis for rationalism. There is no anti-divine Torah Karitesque sect of Judaism, and no Moshe didn't write the Torah Samaritanesque group of Semites. Well, we can immediately knock out a priori assumptions, since we don't seem to a priori believe in religion. More generally speaking, from an utilitarian … Empiricism and Its Limitation This paper will discussed throw some lights on the limits of modern empiricism. Also, you say that there is a difference between saying that matan torah didn't happen as described and matan torah didn't happen period - what does that mean to you? It gives a good outline of what the limits are in order to maintain one's faith while still adhering to rationalist principles. However, there is a small chance that it contains a terrible poison that will cause you unspeakable torture and agony every second of every day for the next 100 years. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason. But in any case they can be used to bolster other non-rationalist reasons to believe.We normally do believe assumptions given to us by our culture and society, unless we have good motivational or rational reason to doubt them. [That last line is my modification, and it's the reason why Christians rejected Pascal's argument - they realized that there's no reason why Christianity would seem logically more plausible than any other religion! Empiricism depends on the validity of sensory input; where human perception is unreliable, empiricism struggles to offer any foundation for knowledge. At what point do you reach the proper limits of faith and reason? the Chumash and Talmud do NOT support the idea that the Torah was given in entirety on mount sinai. There's a good article by Joshua Golding on non-literal readings of Scripture. I therefore do not take the Torah literally when describing the events in the desert which are full of meaningful numbers. This evidence is easily explained if one believes that there is a thing called prophecy which can fortell future events. If you take a non literal approach to those events, then on what to you base your belief that the Torah is the word of God? If we believe our tradition of the truth of the Torah given by Hashem, then we will explain findings accordingly, and if there is a finding that the best explanation according to our beliefs is absurd, then we live with the kasha until more evidence can be found. § § 369-70. Gematria, is just one of the easiest ways to follow and relate to these motifs through a mnemonic device. " It was further given to the prophets, from which we derive many halachot. Basically, it goes as follows (slightly modified):If religion is correct: ○ Atheists and other non-believers may or may not get relatively minor pleasure in this world, but they will get infinite agony in the next. It seems to me we need less "rationalism" and more reason. But if one’s rebbi and/or research tells them to act or believe in a certain manner, then according to everybody one has the right to do so. Carbon dating is very difficult to calibrate correctly and it changes as we learn more and more the historic levels of cosmic ray flux, levels of chemicals in the atmosphere over time, carbon concentrations in some materials, etc. As interesting as I find archeology, due to my personal experiences on that dig I take everything with a huge grain of salt. rationalism is the idea that reason is how new knowledge is acquired, contrast that with empiricism which is the idea that experience is how new knowledge is acquired and skepticism which is the idea that new knowledge is acquired through doubt and thorough testing. It's all stated very clearly in the Talmud. They also avoid the approach of thinking of the Biblical heroes like the Avot, Moshe Rabbenu, David HaMelech and others as simply being Malachim who are far beyond the comprehension of modern man, but as flesh-and-blood people with emotions and attitudes similar to modern people, but who still had the power of prophecy.The important thing to remember is that as controversial as this approach may be to "hard-liners" (Haredim and others, many of whom are within the National Religious camp) is that all these studies are done with yirat Shamayim and yirat haKodesh.The problem comes when devotees of this approach (as I have become) reply to conservative critics who oppose the use of archaelogy and historical studies, begin to accuse them of not being 'open-minded' enough, just like in the argument about evolution. Must have been other languages. What is stated in the text, and what is assumed based on our external timeline? He is not hampered by a sense of humor or by charity, or by the dumb certainties of experience. OMG, keeping halacha 'just in case' G-d cares! There is no recognition of nations living south of Sudan, or east of India, or north of Turkey.The whole world, means different things to different people in different time periods. When I saw no such toad, he explained that the toad shrinks remarkably when a person is in the bathroom. "Actually, they can and have been. I hope your readers will like it, too:From GK Chesterton: If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it; for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by the things that go with good judgment. Comments for this blog are moderated. Maybe you mean the Tanach uses "material evidence". Only after the Torah was read literally and used as a basis of knowledge outside of halacha and the Jewish people did it's authenticity become questioned. "I'm sorry, but your story is not consistent. Empiricism is unquestionably superior to rationalism. This sort of thing is usually subconscious, but one can also consciously decide to believe something.Actually, these categories are mostly interconnected. Opinions of experts change in some areas, and don't really change in the other areas. Every time you run into an issue: Where is God? Although it does not go into detail, he does have an article about reconciling archaelogy and the TANACH" , a very interesting article on the meaning of the world "Ivri" (a "Hebrew") and other interesting things. Contrary to what someone once posited on Dennis Prager's program:אברבנאל בראשית פרק כב ואנשים מבני עמנו כתבו על זה שכיון הרב בו לענין עקדת יצחק שכיון שנזכר שם שמיעת דברי מלאך הכל היה המעשה הזה מתחלתו ועד סופו במראה הנבואה ושלא עבר דבר ממנו בהקיץ. where? Enemy in the Mirror: Islamic Fundamentalism and the Limits of Modern Rationalism: A Work of Comparative Political Theory Eurochron UHRENBEWEGER EUB 250 Beat Euber [Explicit] Eub - Alle Produkte unter allen analysierten Eub Wie sehen die Amazon.de Rezensionen aus? Your toy example is not at all the same thing. I didn't mean to sound negative towards Orthodox Judaism. Forget what I said earlier, Gottlieb seems to cite a review article in BAR by a young earth creationist named Bryant Wood. 2. Where there is no such contradictory physical evidence, I see no reason to veer from the evident implication of the text. He is one of the main pioneers in this approach. In philosophy, rationalism is the epistemological view that "regards reason as the chief source and test of knowledge" ... broadly, that pure reason is flawed when it goes beyond its limits and claims to know those things that are necessarily beyond the realm of every possible experience: the existence of God, free will, and the immortality of the human soul. Re: Rationalism and it's limitations by The Dharma Bum » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:30 am rationalism is the idea that reason is how new knowledge is acquired, contrast that with empiricism which is the idea that experience is how new knowledge is acquired and skepticism which is the idea that new knowledge is acquired through doubt and thorough testing The arguments in this direction were first made popular by the great French mathematician and philosopher Blaise Pascal in the 17th century, and are therefore referred to as Pascal's Wager. That may mean confronting certain things in the present. Which is not to be conflated with a story that has extraneous details changed as facts are pointed out. With a little work I'm sure you can find thousands of bits which say "No matter how you slice it it's baloney".On another note, there are problem with saying "Absolutely all of it is literal except this one piece over here." There are plenty of blogs on the Internet of people who have left Orthodox Judaism over these issues. Rabbi Marc Angel has a book titled Maimonides, Spinoza and Us: Toward an Intellectually Vibrant Judaism. I'm very confused about these two. ""A herring""But herring isn't purple""Nu? It is run by Rav Menachem Liebtag who is or ahs been affiliated with the Herzog College/Yeshivat Har Etzion. The rationalist reason is debatable, as has been said (although it can certainly be used to supplement other lines of reasoning). It Relies On Non-experimental Methods C. It Lacks A Theoretical Framework D. All Of The Above 2. Thank you! If we were to examine the very foundations of our faith such as the divine origins of the Torah they won't stand up to the test, so in order to remain rationalist we stipulate from the outset that we are not willing to go there. But isn't that exactly what you suggest we do with regards to the origins of the Torah? ANONYMOUS COMMENTS WILL NOT BE POSTED - please use either your real name or a pseudonym. Rationalism and Empiricism are two different approaches to the same thing - understanding this world. As a teenager I spent a summer on the archeology dig that Harvard runs in Ashkalon and the number one impression I came away with was that interpretation of finds requires a great deal of creativity and imagination. Since the justification of knowledge occupies a central role in philosophical theorizing, it is typical to sort out philosophers on the basis of their stance with respect to the rationalist vs. empiricist debate. I must admit, that this conversation reminds me of an old chelm joke. "For instance, the origin of languages related in the tower of Babel story need not refer to origin of all languages - just those spoken by Semitic peoples, i.e., the descendants of Noah's sons. Do "we" agree with this conclusions? (Chesterton concludes that only the ability to hold truths that appear to be contradictory keeps us sane): Mysticism keeps men sane. But if you think that just because your teretz is consistent and not preposterous that you've dealt with the evidence or made your claim in the least sensible, you're very wrong. But that's not the case. They point out parallels and they make subjective statements about the event. Why is the world more than six thousand years old? The second cup may not taste so good. [To be continued ...], [continued from previous post]So now for the main question: Can these reasons for belief be used to argue in favor of religion, specifically Judaism? I would argue that Rationalism is the only plausible view. Now, its possible to say that Gd just made these events happen on regular intervals, but then why in the rest of history, does Gd not use regular intervals of numbers for kings and kingdoms to exist. Using Rationalism as a Tool for Understanding Ourselves in the World . 1. Plus, according to traditional sources, we wouldn't expect to find normal evidence during the Sinai journey because their clothes didn't disintegrate and they ate mann rather than cook and stuff. Ancient armies would routinely burn cities and massacre all the inhabitants, papyrus and parchment go up in smoke but clay gets preserved forever! Is it "rational" to accept "Torah miSinai" or do we need to suspend our rationality at that point? 1. Regarding allegorically interpreting Yitziyas Mitzrayim, the Exodus from Egypt, he expresses some reservations about saying it is forbidden categorically but argues that it is “safek heresy” since whatever would cause one to interpret Yitziyas Mitzrayim allegorically would logically compel one to do so with Matan Torah. Enemy in the Mirror: Islamic Fundamentalism and the Limits of Modern Rationalism: A Work of Comparative Political Theory Eurochron UHRENBEWEGER EUB 250 Beat Euber [Explicit] Auf welche Faktoren Sie zuhause beim Kauf Ihres Eub achten sollten Hier sehen Sie als Kunde unsere Liste der Favoriten von Eub, während Platz 1 den Vergleichssieger darstellen soll. As you wrote so well, it's not possible to ask people to shut their minds off. However, nothing is in fact perfect, and certainly realism is not the exception. "I would be very interested to hear how you did so. I come from a more Chassidic/Mystical/Chareidi background and after being confronted with the contradictions to my worldview from evolution, biblical criticism, and the archeological record am trying to adapt a more rationalist approach. While I believe that there is room to explore such questions, and believe it does have some relevance, in day to day life their reasoning is much more down to earth.The Discovery Seminar didn't invent using argumentation to support Jewish beliefs. Why are names of places/people/facts from post-torah time mentioned in the torah? This could go on forever. What is the nature of propositional knowledge, knowledge that aparticular proposition about the world is true?To know a proposition, we must believe it and it must be true, butsomething more is required, something that distinguishes knowledgefrom a lucky guess. He has always left himself free to doubt his gods; but (unlike the agnostic of to-day) free also to believe in them . Close your eyes and vividly imagine the scenario. "In general, this is, perhaps, the most serious flaw in Orthodox Jewish apologetics. It's not as if the numbers can be fitted into some kind of literary scheme. Why sweat the pujas, the Haj, the Comunion or Kashrus? It's not as if the numbers can be fitted into some kind of literary scheme. Cultural assumptionsThe argument here would be as follows: Assuming you grew up with Judaism as a culturally-imbibed assumption, and assuming that you don't have very strong arguments (rational or motivational) to the contrary, then you should believe in Judaism according to your own criteria for belief - just as you'd believe other assumptions given to you by your culture.I'm aware that this can be debated, since we don't always blindly accept assumptions given to us by our culture, but at the very least it can be combined with other lines of reasoning as a strong argument in favor of belief.Experiential beliefThe argument here would be almost identical to the previous one: Assuming you have had an experience that makes Judaism feel "true" to you, and assuming that you don't have very strong arguments (rational or motivational) to the contrary, then you should believe in Judaism according to your own criteria for belief - just as you'd believe other things you "feel" to be true.This line of reasoning has been argued in various places on the web (see for example - start from the earliest post), so I'm not going to discuss it in depth. See http://digitalcommons.library.arizona.edu/objectviewer?o=http://radiocarbon.library.arizona.edu/Volume46/Number3/azu_radiocarbon_v46_n3_1029_1058_v.pdf for a discription of the current curve (they use a newer one now but they did not change the curve from 0-10,000 which is all we care about).I did not know the source Rabbi Gottlieb was quoting, I assumed it was from a primary source as many of his quotations are. "This has been catagorically disproven. In other words, you can say: "according to your own self-accepted criteria for belief, you would accept the following as true. I am talking about explaining a piece of evidence that we all can see and look at. Numbers like 4, 7, 10, 40, 600, 12, etc have literary meanings and significance. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. For all we know, Sara Imeinu's personal diary is one of those 80,000. :) "The number of documents from ancient Mesopotamia is absolutely staggering. But modern academia, archaeology, and biblical criticism are not them.As the famous science biology teacher once said... "If there is a conflict between the cat and the textbook, the cat is right. Abarbanel was a complex figure; in some ways very radical, in other ways very conservative. For a lengthy discussion of different views regarding allegorization, see The Challenge Of Creation. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on why a person would remain an Orthodox Jew if Yetziat Mitzrayim and Matan Torah never happened, other than if they are more comfortable with the lifestyle of OJ than the alternative. (might have been more, might have been less, there is no way to know without evidence)Lastly, I believe that the Torah is divine, because there is no record of anybody saying otherwise. So you can never absolutely prove pretty much anything, including religion. This imbalance gives rise to social alienation. Third, you set yourself up for the same difficulties as the complete literalist; the moment anything is shown to be wrong your ontology takes severe structural damage.Not saying you are right or wrong. I think they can be divided into five categories:(1) A priori assumptions that seem "hard-wired" into the human psyche: e.g., basic rules of logic(2) Rationalist reasons for belief: I believe something because, taking all the information I have into account, that seems the most logical. EncJud 7. "You started talking about "material evidence" and then you say "argumentation". 603 thousand rather than 603. It's certainly a philosophical danger. Unabhängig davon, dass diese ab und zu nicht ganz objektiv sind, bringen die Bewertungen im Gesamtpaket eine gute … The plagues are then cited as lasting a year. However, it is doubtful that the rational thought processes and decision-making that occurs during negotiation can function independently of the emotions. It stands in contrast to rationalism, according to which reason is the ultimate source of knowledge. For example, rationalism cannot guarantee one will make the right choice in marriage or relationship. The correct use of intuition and emotion is another. one sample may be far from the curve and be older/younger than it says - especailly if there is a local source of error). the Gemorah which says that Joshua wrote about the Ir miklat goes directly against Rambam's Ikkarim), Meir-I would recommend looking at Rav Yoel Bin-Nun's website. Nor is there a reason to believe that the theophany on mt. These curves are not smooth and have their own ranges of error. "In my view, although some of the Rishonim applied the rationalist approach to Judaism without limitations, we cannot do so. Avi, while apologetics are rarely convincing, neither are the complex schemes whereby various DH proponents use to justify their particular way of deconstructing the torah. On the other hand, there's a small chance that it contains a magical potion that will grant you great wealth, perfect happiness, and immortality. That added up to 100 talents (300,000 shekel) and 1,775 shekel. Type Article Author(s) Graham Hillard Date 31/03/2010 Volume 68 Issue 2 Page start 140 Page end 143 DOI 10.1080/00144941003723931 OpenURL Check for local electronic subscriptions Is part of Journal Title The Explicator ISSN 0014-4940 EISSN 1939-926X Short title The Explicator. If one were to claim to be unbiased (not likely) even then, the most "reasonable" explanation of the facts is not a clear-cut definition, and relies on ones feeling of "reasonable" or "likely". This is probably your only chance to try it. Previous question Next question Get more help from Chegg. This is a thought process correct. But it didn't happen to 2 million people as a literal reading might imply, and it didn't result in 40 years of wandering. Yet, by Moshe's time there were many languages spoken in the lands mentioned in Genesis. Then the debate, Rationalism vs. Empiricism, is joined. The Torah and the Nevi'im did, although perhaps not systematically. What other sciences would even deal with the event of the giving of the Torah other than archeology?If you refer to statements in the Torah not being in concruance with science, that is hardly a large threat considering the multitude of interpretations in the mesora about such things. God speaks with different voices. You might have formulated research aims and objectives too broadly. Numbers, B. And certainly not to basic human psychology which is always looking for patterns and magical numbers.Perhaps he spelled "rosh" without an alpeh. Figure ; in some ways very conservative Angel has a book titled Maimonides, Spinoza and us: an! 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